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pacat ca mor oameni pe strada. si pe urma spunem ca sunt eroi.
sunt. dar ar fi fost de preferat un pistolar din trafic cu blamatul zamac si letalele bile de cauciuc.
asta e efectul legii armelor din Romania
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Jos comunistii , traiasca democratia 
O sa ne obisnuim cu chesti din astea mereu , s-au intors ai nostri , te pomenesti ca vor si 20.000 de euroi
Politia daca nu este in stare sa ne apere sa dea drumul la port arme letale ca ne aparam si singuri .
O sa ne obisnuim cu chesti din astea mereu , s-au intors ai nostri , te pomenesti ca vor si 20.000 de euroi
Politia daca nu este in stare sa ne apere sa dea drumul la port arme letale ca ne aparam si singuri .
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MrPlici wrote:Jos comunistii , traiasca democratia
O sa ne obisnuim cu chesti din astea mereu , s-au intors ai nostri , te pomenesti ca vor si 20.000 de euroi
Politia daca nu este in stare sa ne apere sa dea drumul la port arme letale ca ne aparam si singuri .
Articolul 35. Atragerea proprietarilor de arme la mentinerea ordinii publice
La solicitarea organelor afacerilor interne, persoanele fizice care detin arme cu titlu de proprietate privata pot participa benevol la mentinerea ordinii publice si la asigurarea integritatii bunurilor cetatenilor, in astfel de cazuri, armele se aplica in conformitate cu Legea cu privire la politie.
( LEGEA REPUBLICII MOLDOVA cu privire la arme [Denumirea in redactia Legii nr.563-XV din 19.10.2001] Nr.11O-XIII din 18.05.94 Monitorul Oficial al R. Moldova nr.4/43 din 08.09.1994 - Capitolul V DETINEREA, PORTUL SI TRANSPORTUL ARMELOR, FOLOSIREA SI APLICAREA LOR )
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Moldoveni,bulgari si alti vecini sunt cu 20 de ani inaintea noastra cu legislatia .Pe o parte imi pare bine dar si rau ca se intampla asa ,poate asa or sa se trezeasca si carnati din parlament care isi iau lefurile degeaba .Politia romana a avut grija sa ingradeasca dreprurile detinatorilor legali dar nu face nimic cu adevarati infractori .Poate ca daca cel care a murit avea si el o arma (si cu bila de cauciu in cel mai rau caz)poate ca situatia era altfel.Alesi nostri stiu sa se inarmeze ei (ca daca ii iei la rost toti au arme cu glont ,vezi doamne pentru aparare ,ca viata lor valoreaza mai mult decat a noatre )dar amarati aia care umbla toata ziua cu bani si isi pun viata in pericol nu .Suntem o tara de c...t in care poti sa te astepti sa mori in fiecare zi .Constituria este o calicatura de lege ca toate celelalte ,nimic nu iti mai garanteaza integritatea si propietatea .Cei multi sunt statistici iar cei de la putere sunt alesi poporului cei cu 3 c...e .
Sa fiti iubiti .
Sa fiti iubiti .
Ultimul care pleaca din Romania stinge lumina
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Subscriu la cele de mai sus si adaug cu parere de rau ca or sa devina din ce in ce mai obisnuite stirile de acest fel.cyrus12 wrote:Moldoveni,bulgari si alti vecini sunt cu 20 de ani inaintea noastra cu legislatia .Pe o parte imi pare bine dar si rau ca se intampla asa ,poate asa or sa se trezeasca si carnati din parlament care isi iau lefurile degeaba .Politia romana a avut grija sa ingradeasca dreprurile detinatorilor legali dar nu face nimic cu adevarati infractori .Poate ca daca cel care a murit avea si el o arma (si cu bila de cauciu in cel mai rau caz)poate ca situatia era altfel.Alesi nostri stiu sa se inarmeze ei (ca daca ii iei la rost toti au arme cu glont ,vezi doamne pentru aparare ,ca viata lor valoreaza mai mult decat a noatre )dar amarati aia care umbla toata ziua cu bani si isi pun viata in pericol nu .Suntem o tara de c...t in care poti sa te astepti sa mori in fiecare zi .Constituria este o calicatura de lege ca toate celelalte ,nimic nu iti mai garanteaza integritatea si propietatea .Cei multi sunt statistici iar cei de la putere sunt alesi poporului cei cu 3 c...e .
Sa fiti iubiti .
si va aduceti aminte declaratia oficiala a unui reprezentant al mai de la chisinau?BARTHY 2 wrote:MrPlici wrote:Jos comunistii , traiasca democratia
O sa ne obisnuim cu chesti din astea mereu , s-au intors ai nostri , te pomenesti ca vor si 20.000 de euroi
Politia daca nu este in stare sa ne apere sa dea drumul la port arme letale ca ne aparam si singuri .
Articolul 35. Atragerea proprietarilor de arme la mentinerea ordinii publice
La solicitarea organelor afacerilor interne, persoanele fizice care detin arme cu titlu de proprietate privata pot participa benevol la mentinerea ordinii publice si la asigurarea integritatii bunurilor cetatenilor, in astfel de cazuri, armele se aplica in conformitate cu Legea cu privire la politie.
( LEGEA REPUBLICII MOLDOVA cu privire la arme [Denumirea in redactia Legii nr.563-XV din 19.10.2001] Nr.11O-XIII din 18.05.94 Monitorul Oficial al R. Moldova nr.4/43 din 08.09.1994 - Capitolul V DETINEREA, PORTUL SI TRANSPORTUL ARMELOR, FOLOSIREA SI APLICAREA LOR )
s-au redus infractiunile... pai normal, ca infractoru vede doar un politai pe strada, dar mai sunt 30 de civili din care daca macar 6 scot arma... nu mai e infractor e sita...
la noi?!? pai ii trage sefimea un perdaf si o mustruluire lu' desteptu ala de a tras foc de avertizment, de nu se vede... eventual si cercetat si alte alea
si atunci romanu are doar doua variante: nu scoate arma de servici simananca bataie sau devine erou, sau dupa caz...:puscarie, dat afara,iese la pensie inainte de vreme pt ca inebuneste...
si r-ati voi sa fiti de posesori de zamace si pliciuri cu ac: va inasprim legea ca poate va luati glanda singuri sau va duceti in alte tari unde e mai frig:laponia alaska sau siberia, ori alegeti varianta cu f multa caldura adica va ia
Din pacate traim in rrromanica si asta ne costa viata pe unii dintre noi in loc sa fie agresorul la loc cu verdeata. dar la altii se schimba situatia va supun atentiei un articol pe care nu o sa-l cititi niciodata in presa din romania: People don't stop killers. People with guns do
By GLENN REYNOLDS
Wednesday, April 18th 2007, 4:00 AM
On Monday, as the news of the Virginia Tech shootings was unfolding, I went into my advanced constitutional law seminar to find one of my students upset. My student, Tara Wyllie, has a permit to carry a gun in Tennessee, but she isn't allowed to have a weapon on campus. That left her feeling unsafe. "Why couldn't we meet off campus today?" she asked.
Virginia Tech graduate student Bradford Wiles also has a permit to carry a gun, in Virginia. But on the day of the shootings, he would have been unarmed for the same reason: Like the University of Tennessee, where I teach, Virginia Tech bans guns on campus.
In The Roanoke Times last year - after another campus incident, when a dangerous escaped inmate was roaming the campus - Wiles wrote that, when his class was evacuated, "Of all of the emotions and thoughts that were running through my head that morning, the most overwhelming one was of helplessness. That feeling of helplessness has been difficult to reconcile because I knew I would have been safer with a proper means to defend myself."
Wiles reported that when he told a professor how he felt, the professor responded that she would have felt safer if he had had a gun, too.
What's more, she would have been safer. That's how I feel about my student (one of a few I know who have gun carry permits), as well. She's a responsible adult; I trust her not to use her gun improperly, and if something bad happened, I'd want her to be armed because I trust her to respond appropriately, making the rest of us safer.
Virginia Tech doesn't have that kind of trust in its students (or its faculty, for that matter). Neither does the University of Tennessee. Both think that by making their campuses "gun-free," they'll make people safer, when in fact they're only disarming the people who follow rules, law-abiding people who are no danger at all.
This merely ensures that the murderers have a free hand. If there were more responsible, armed people on campuses, mass murder would be harder.
In fact, some mass shootings have been stopped by armed citizens. Though press accounts downplayed it, the 2002 shooting at Appalachian Law School was stopped when a student retrieved a gun from his car and confronted the shooter. Likewise, Pearl, Miss., school shooter Luke Woodham was stopped when the school's vice principal took a .45 fromhis truck and ran to the scene. In February's Utah mall shooting, it was an off-duty police officer who happened to be on the scene and carrying a gun.
Police can't be everywhere, and as incidents from Columbine to Virginia Tech demonstrate, by the time they show up at a mass shooting, it's usually too late. On the other hand, one group of people is, by definition, always on the scene: the victims. Only if they're armed, they may wind up not being victims at all.
"Gun-free zones" are premised on a fantasy: That murderers will follow rules, and that people like my student, or Bradford Wiles, are a greater danger to those around them than crazed killers like Cho Seung-hui. That's an insult. Sometimes, it's a deadly one.
Reynolds is Beauchamp Brogan distinguished professor of law at the University of Tennessee. He is the author of the book "An Army of Davids" and blogs at instapundit.com
dar la altii se schimba situatia va supun atentiei un articol pe care nu o sa-l cititi niciodata in presa din romania: People don't stop killers. People with guns doBy GLENN REYNOLDS
Wednesday, April 18th 2007, 4:00 AM
On Monday, as the news of the Virginia Tech shootings was unfolding, I went into my advanced constitutional law seminar to find one of my students upset. My student, Tara Wyllie, has a permit to carry a gun in Tennessee, but she isn't allowed to have a weapon on campus. That left her feeling unsafe. "Why couldn't we meet off campus today?" she asked.
Virginia Tech graduate student Bradford Wiles also has a permit to carry a gun, in Virginia. But on the day of the shootings, he would have been unarmed for the same reason: Like the University of Tennessee, where I teach, Virginia Tech bans guns on campus.
In The Roanoke Times last year - after another campus incident, when a dangerous escaped inmate was roaming the campus - Wiles wrote that, when his class was evacuated, "Of all of the emotions and thoughts that were running through my head that morning, the most overwhelming one was of helplessness. That feeling of helplessness has been difficult to reconcile because I knew I would have been safer with a proper means to defend myself."
Wiles reported that when he told a professor how he felt, the professor responded that she would have felt safer if he had had a gun, too.
What's more, she would have been safer. That's how I feel about my student (one of a few I know who have gun carry permits), as well. She's a responsible adult; I trust her not to use her gun improperly, and if something bad happened, I'd want her to be armed because I trust her to respond appropriately, making the rest of us safer.
Virginia Tech doesn't have that kind of trust in its students (or its faculty, for that matter). Neither does the University of Tennessee. Both think that by making their campuses "gun-free," they'll make people safer, when in fact they're only disarming the people who follow rules, law-abiding people who are no danger at all.
This merely ensures that the murderers have a free hand. If there were more responsible, armed people on campuses, mass murder would be harder.
In fact, some mass shootings have been stopped by armed citizens. Though press accounts downplayed it, the 2002 shooting at Appalachian Law School was stopped when a student retrieved a gun from his car and confronted the shooter. Likewise, Pearl, Miss., school shooter Luke Woodham was stopped when the school's vice principal took a .45 fromhis truck and ran to the scene. In February's Utah mall shooting, it was an off-duty police officer who happened to be on the scene and carrying a gun.
Police can't be everywhere, and as incidents from Columbine to Virginia Tech demonstrate, by the time they show up at a mass shooting, it's usually too late. On the other hand, one group of people is, by definition, always on the scene: the victims. Only if they're armed, they may wind up not being victims at all.
"Gun-free zones" are premised on a fantasy: That murderers will follow rules, and that people like my student, or Bradford Wiles, are a greater danger to those around them than crazed killers like Cho Seung-hui. That's an insult. Sometimes, it's a deadly one.
Reynolds is Beauchamp Brogan distinguished professor of law at the University of Tennessee. He is the author of the book "An Army of Davids" and blogs at instapundit.com
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interesant articolul.
E uite asta e problema celor care ne conduc. Lipsa de raspundere in actiunile lor si indiferenta fata de capitolul din constitutie privind protectia cetateanului. Daca ar fi fost interesati intr-adevar in combaterea fenomenului, pe care de ce sa nu il recunoastem este o problema, poate si datorita mediatizarii cazurilor privind uzul de arma care este intotdeauna aratat intregii populatii ca fiind un fapt antisocial, inuman drept sa puna in pericol vietile nevinovate ale oamenilor.
Notele de fundamentare privind modificarile legislatiei cred ca sunt facute "la misto" fiind fortati de atitudinea din mass-media iar actiunile legislative ulterioare sunt total eronate. RUSINE !!
Vin si intreb, exista statistic in notele de fundamentare nr. cazurilor in care arma folosita abuziv era detinuta legal? nu stiu. ei daca s-ar interesa ar sti.
2. Chiar oricine poate sa aiba la brau arma neletala(of course cu cazierul curat si psiho) (cu AC sau Bila de Cauciuc) fara sa aiba un minim habar privind legislatia in vigoare sau functionalitatea armei? Adica omul care isi ia legal arma e ca si cum ti-ai lua permis de conducere fara sa stii regulile de circulatie (vezi cazul Pitesti - unde am inteles ca sunt deja 5 morti si 51 de raniti drept rezultat)
In schimb la un caz de uz ii se confisca arma utilizatorului (punandu-l chiar in pericol legat de repercursiunile adevaratilor infractori) de ce?
pentru ca in Romania se intampla ceva senzational si complet anticonstitutional:
PREZUMTIA DE VINOVATIE
Deci cine are urechi sa auda si ochi - sa vada. barna din nasul lor si padurea de copaci.
simplu.
E uite asta e problema celor care ne conduc. Lipsa de raspundere in actiunile lor si indiferenta fata de capitolul din constitutie privind protectia cetateanului. Daca ar fi fost interesati intr-adevar in combaterea fenomenului, pe care de ce sa nu il recunoastem este o problema, poate si datorita mediatizarii cazurilor privind uzul de arma care este intotdeauna aratat intregii populatii ca fiind un fapt antisocial, inuman drept sa puna in pericol vietile nevinovate ale oamenilor.
Notele de fundamentare privind modificarile legislatiei cred ca sunt facute "la misto" fiind fortati de atitudinea din mass-media iar actiunile legislative ulterioare sunt total eronate. RUSINE !!
Vin si intreb, exista statistic in notele de fundamentare nr. cazurilor in care arma folosita abuziv era detinuta legal? nu stiu. ei daca s-ar interesa ar sti.
2. Chiar oricine poate sa aiba la brau arma neletala(of course cu cazierul curat si psiho) (cu AC sau Bila de Cauciuc) fara sa aiba un minim habar privind legislatia in vigoare sau functionalitatea armei? Adica omul care isi ia legal arma e ca si cum ti-ai lua permis de conducere fara sa stii regulile de circulatie (vezi cazul Pitesti - unde am inteles ca sunt deja 5 morti si 51 de raniti drept rezultat)
In schimb la un caz de uz ii se confisca arma utilizatorului (punandu-l chiar in pericol legat de repercursiunile adevaratilor infractori) de ce?
pentru ca in Romania se intampla ceva senzational si complet anticonstitutional:
PREZUMTIA DE VINOVATIE
Deci cine are urechi sa auda si ochi - sa vada. barna din nasul lor si padurea de copaci.
simplu.
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E adresat celor cu ceva circumvolutiuni restul sa puna mina sa invete, nu le strica.haiosu wrote:incearca si tu sa pui si o traducere ceva, ca e unii care nu citeste nici almanahe dar daca isi arunca ochiul pe aici sa inteleaga cev...nu, nu sa inteleaga cev (a) ci macar sa citeasca in limba lor materna...
multzam
ce naiba sa invete, ca doar iq e invers proportional cu salariul (sau functia detinuta)...dcrist wrote:E adresat celor cu ceva circumvolutiuni restul sa puna mina sa invete, nu le strica.haiosu wrote:incearca si tu sa pui si o traducere ceva, ca e unii care nu citeste nici almanahe dar daca isi arunca ochiul pe aici sa inteleaga cev...nu, nu sa inteleaga cev (a) ci macar sa citeasca in limba lor materna...
multzam
cui ii place sa citeasca sa invete sa se cultive, sa moara de foame, r-ar ei sa fie cu melcii lor...
daca abandonai si tu scoala cand erai la gradi, acu erai parlamentar nu un alt parlit ca mine
