Despre autoaparare...

Intrebari cu caracter general despre armele si accesoriile folosite pentru autoaparare.

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radu.b wrote:
Guest wrote: Chiar va rog, ca armurier autorizat ce sunteti, sa ne oferiti,fara probleme, arme din acest segment, cum face FRANKONIA ,de exemplu .
http://www.frankonia.de/shop/Ordonanzwa ... ylist.html
Daca intampinati probleme cu procurarea lor(din import sau de la intern) , sa ne anuntati! :D
Buna ziua.
Am face si lucrul acesta. Dar nu exista un furnizor, persoana juridica cu care sa colaboram in acest sens.
Revenind la lege, in cazul "gasirii unei arme la demolarea unei cladiri", tot ce trebuie sa faceti este sa declarati arma la politie si sa incepeti demersurile pentru a obtine autorizatia de detinere a acestei arme.
O zi buna.
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Radu
Domnule Radu, de exemplu Dl Bebe(armurier ca si dvs) de la Tg Jiu, ia Mosinurile de la fabrica Sadu si le vinde la persoane fizice.Si fabrica Sadu nu e singura din Romania. Cum puteti spune ca nu exista furnizori persoane juridice?Ati parcurs ofertele Romtehnica pentru licitatii?
Referitor la armele gasite, trebuie sa stiti ca ele nu se declara, ci se predau. Eu am gasit si predat multe. Am facut demersurile necesare cum spuneti dvs, si tot ce am obtinut a fost placerea de a le vedea in posesia unor oameni cu grade. Mari.Inclin sa cred ca sunteti destul de tanar si nu ati obtinut nici o arma pe aceasta cale, ca sa stiti adevarata stare de fapt.La armele gasite nu exista drept de preemptiune (cel putin pentru cetateanul de rand).
Si referitor la Muntenegrean, daca il priveati pe cel din susul paginii, observati ca este modelul cu frema fixa.
Buna ziua.
Pe domnul Bebe il stim foarte bine si este un apropiat de-al nostru. Dar aici vorbim de o relatie de lunga durata intre dansul si fabrica Sadu.
Este adevarat ca nu am parcurs niciodata aceste demersuri si nici nu am trecut prin situatia dumneavoastra. Faptul ca armele au ajuns in posesia altora este din pacate (si ajungem iar la punctul de inceput, cu legislativul) un abuz si este un fapt ce ne caracterizeaza pe noi romanii.
In ceea ce priveste revolverul, acest lucru nu mi-a fost clar pentru ca si ce am vazut eu fizic a fost cum spuneti , cu frema fixa. Iar in schitele postate, nu in poza revolverului, nu am recunoscut aceeasi arma. Ce parere aveti despre armele S&W postate pe site-ul nostru.
O zi buna si tinem legatura.
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Revolverele muntenegrene au fost si cu frema fixa, si basculante, functie de model si producator. In pagina de catalog este unul fix si unul basculant
Si un articol mic despre aceste revolvere, care nu au fost facute doar de Gasser


A small word on the "Revolvers Montenegrins"

The hinged-frame action was design of Belgian firearms manufacturer Jean Warnant and his assistant Fransquet, but the twin-latch opening was designed by Philippe Counot of Belgian Auguste Francotte's plant. Design of Warnant & Fransquet had just one opening lever on the right or left side of frame.

11 mm Montenegrin Gasser revolvers were heavy and big, usually with twin-latch hinged frame. (Opening levers on both sides of the frame; Counot's design).

Montenegrin King Nikita (or Nicolas; reign 1910 - 18) was a notable shareholder of a firm Leopold Gasser and an efficient salesman of old-fashioned revolvers, already before his royal reign. King Nikita declared a famous Royal Act: "Every male citizen of Montenegro is a member of the Militia, and therefore not only justified but also obliged to possess at least one Gasser Pattern revolver."

Montenegrins models were designed in 1880, both solid-frame and hinged-frame versions, caliber usually 11 mm, but after declaration of Royal Act the 9 mm G-K models became also popular, since the teen-ager or still younger boys got the right (and obligation) to acquire, possess and carry a revolver.

Population of Montenegro was considerably less than half million citizens in 1910, but some patriotic (= wealthy) Montenegrins acquired as many as a dozen Gasser wheel guns.

Huge orders of obsolete Montenegrin revolvers kept the firm Leopold Gasser alive until the end of First World War, although Austro-Hungarian armed forces did no more order 8 mm Rast-Gasser revolvers after adoptment of self-loading 9 mm Steyr-Hahn pistols since 1912.

Less wealthy citizens of Montenegrins Kingdom acquired cheap Belgian look-alikes of Montenegrin Gasser revolvers, including Warnant's Montenegrin models, because the Royal Act mentioned Gasser as a pattern of revolver but not as an actual manufacturer of it."



Original Gasser Montenegrins revolver Model 1880 with hinged frame and Gounot's twin-latch. Caliber 11,3 mm Gasser. Optional barrel lengths were either 133 mm or 235 mm. Co-designer or this model, Archduke Nikita (later King) of Montenegro, preferred "Buntline Special" barrel with a length 235 mm.

In ceea ce priveste revolverele S&W de pe siteul dvs. sunt bune, sunt frumoase, dar ma uit la ele ca la Angelina Jolie! :D
Atunci cand vei fi pus in situatia de a-ti preda arma, sa stii ca a venit ceasul sa pui mana pe ea!
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Guest wrote:Revolverele muntenegrene au fost si cu frema fixa, si basculante, functie de model si producator. In pagina de catalog este unul fix si unul basculant
Si un articol mic despre aceste revolvere, care nu au fost facute doar de Gasser


A small word on the "Revolvers Montenegrins"

The hinged-frame action was design of Belgian firearms manufacturer Jean Warnant and his assistant Fransquet, but the twin-latch opening was designed by Philippe Counot of Belgian Auguste Francotte's plant. Design of Warnant & Fransquet had just one opening lever on the right or left side of frame.

11 mm Montenegrin Gasser revolvers were heavy and big, usually with twin-latch hinged frame. (Opening levers on both sides of the frame; Counot's design).

Montenegrin King Nikita (or Nicolas; reign 1910 - 18) was a notable shareholder of a firm Leopold Gasser and an efficient salesman of old-fashioned revolvers, already before his royal reign. King Nikita declared a famous Royal Act: "Every male citizen of Montenegro is a member of the Militia, and therefore not only justified but also obliged to possess at least one Gasser Pattern revolver."

Montenegrins models were designed in 1880, both solid-frame and hinged-frame versions, caliber usually 11 mm, but after declaration of Royal Act the 9 mm G-K models became also popular, since the teen-ager or still younger boys got the right (and obligation) to acquire, possess and carry a revolver.

Population of Montenegro was considerably less than half million citizens in 1910, but some patriotic (= wealthy) Montenegrins acquired as many as a dozen Gasser wheel guns.

Huge orders of obsolete Montenegrin revolvers kept the firm Leopold Gasser alive until the end of First World War, although Austro-Hungarian armed forces did no more order 8 mm Rast-Gasser revolvers after adoptment of self-loading 9 mm Steyr-Hahn pistols since 1912.

Less wealthy citizens of Montenegrins Kingdom acquired cheap Belgian look-alikes of Montenegrin Gasser revolvers, including Warnant's Montenegrin models, because the Royal Act mentioned Gasser as a pattern of revolver but not as an actual manufacturer of it."



Original Gasser Montenegrins revolver Model 1880 with hinged frame and Gounot's twin-latch. Caliber 11,3 mm Gasser. Optional barrel lengths were either 133 mm or 235 mm. Co-designer or this model, Archduke Nikita (later King) of Montenegro, preferred "Buntline Special" barrel with a length 235 mm.

In ceea ce priveste revolverele S&W de pe siteul dvs. sunt bune, sunt frumoase, dar ma uit la ele ca la Angelina Jolie! :D
Buna ziua.
:lol: E nici chiar asa. Angelina Jolie o vedeti doar pe sticla pe cand S&W il gasiti si in magazine si le puteti vedea in "intreaga lor splendoare " intre 8-11 mai la Romexpo, la targul organizat de Aventuri la pescuit, unde suntem prezenti. Ca vorba aia pe Angelina nu o puteti atinge :D dar pe S&W da. :wink:
O zi buna si postez zilele astea poza revolverului vazut de mine.
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Atunci cand vei fi pus in situatia de a-ti preda arma, sa stii ca a venit ceasul sa pui mana pe ea!
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Buna ziua.
Este interesant. Tot S&W dar sunt toate model 22,29... din gama Classics. Doar praselele sunt modificate. Arata a fi magazin din state.
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Buna ziua.
M-am gandit sa incep sa postez periodic, pozele pistoalelor cu glont (putin accesibile la vanzare), mari, cu cat mai multe detalii. Am deschis un nou topic si ar fi interesante comentariile.
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