• Damage cauzat de pistoale cu bile de cauciuc.

Posted: **Tue Feb 26, 2008 3:12 pm**

Priviti ce "damage" fac pistoalele cu bila de cauciuc.Poza asta este luata de pe un forum din Ungaria .

distanta 3 m,9mm umarex.

18mm.distanta 3m.

Test de tragere efectuat cu revolver fabricat in Ungaria.(va dati voi seama si de firma producatoare)

Posted: **Tue Feb 26, 2008 9:38 pm**

Sunt curios ce munitie s-a folosit.
Firma Keseru o cunosc bine iar majoritatea produselor lor cu mici exceptii sunt de o calitate indoielnica (e cam mult spus).

Posted: **Tue Feb 26, 2008 10:18 pm**

Bill wrote:Sunt curios ce munitie s-a folosit.
Firma Keseru o cunosc bine iar majoritatea produselor lor cu mici exceptii sunt de o calitate indoielnica (e cam mult spus).

cam asa zice pe site-ul lor :
http://www.keseru.hu/

MAGNUM DEFENDER
– Cap'n'ball revolver for rubber bullets –
(9 mm flobert cap/10 mm rubber bullet,
70 shore-hardness, 0,6 gramms)

The Magnum Defender cap'n'ball revolver is manufactured in the Keserű® Művek, designed by Béla Keserű. The revolver has double action/single action lockwork. The cylinder have 6 10 mm-caliber chambers for the bullets, which have to be loaded from the front. The 9 mm primed flobert cartridge (RWS) cases (caps) have to be loaded from the back. The cylinder can be pulled off from its pin for easier loading.

The gun have ejector and passive firing pin safety. The muzzle energy is cca. 20 J. Effective range is 5-10 meters. The muzzle energy depends on barrel lengths and within 18-44 joules range.

The revolver is made with 1,5", 2,5", 3", 4" barrels. The 1,5" and 3" models have aluminium frame, while the 2,5" and 4" ones are with zinc-alloy frame.

si astea ar fi datele tehnice in functie de lungimea tevii :
magazine capacity 6 db 6 db 6 db 6 db
barrel length 1,5” 2,5” 3” 4”
caliber 9 mm 9 mm 9 mm 9 mm
full length 170 mm 180 mm 195 mm 216 mm
heights 98 mm 125 mm 125 mm 125 mm
width 34 mm 34 mm 34 mm 34 mm
E0: 18 Joule 20 Joule 30 Joule 44 Joule
V0: 245 m/s 260 m/s 320 m/s 385 m/s
material of the frame: alumínium zamak alumínium zamak

pai daca nu a reusit keserul sa strapunga tabla aia galvanizata de burlan ( 0,4 mm ) e stift; rg88, in schimb o face.

Posted: **Tue Mar 18, 2008 5:07 pm**

Bill wrote:Sunt curios ce munitie s-a folosit.
Firma Keseru o cunosc bine iar majoritatea produselor lor cu mici exceptii sunt de o calitate indoielnica (e cam mult spus).

Buna ziua,sint folosite mai multe tipuri de arme,printre care (imagi cu slanina)un IJ de 12 transformat special pentru bila de cauciuc 18mm cu putere de 100 J.Munitia este 9x17 knall umarex,ca si la arma Defender diferenta este ca teava din imagine este de 0,8 mm smaltuit.(am vazut personal)Sa mai tras ca Rg 89 ,cu bila de 8,2 pe tabla de aluminiu de 1mm(linga care se vede urmele IJ 12

Posted: **Tue Mar 18, 2008 9:06 pm**

BARTHY 2 wrote:
Bill wrote:Sunt curios ce munitie s-a folosit.
Firma Keseru o cunosc bine iar majoritatea produselor lor cu mici exceptii sunt de o calitate indoielnica (e cam mult spus).
cam asa zice pe site-ul lor :
http://www.keseru.hu/
MAGNUM DEFENDER
– Cap'n'ball revolver for rubber bullets –
(9 mm flobert cap/10 mm rubber bullet,
70 shore-hardness, 0,6 gramms)

The Magnum Defender cap'n'ball revolver is manufactured in the Keserű® Művek, designed by Béla Keserű. The revolver has double action/single action lockwork. The cylinder have 6 10 mm-caliber chambers for the bullets, which have to be loaded from the front. The 9 mm primed flobert cartridge (RWS) cases (caps) have to be loaded from the back. The cylinder can be pulled off from its pin for easier loading.

The gun have ejector and passive firing pin safety. The muzzle energy is cca. 20 J. Effective range is 5-10 meters. The muzzle energy depends on barrel lengths and within 18-44 joules range.

The revolver is made with 1,5", 2,5", 3", 4" barrels. The 1,5" and 3" models have aluminium frame, while the 2,5" and 4" ones are with zinc-alloy frame.
si astea ar fi datele tehnice in functie de lungimea tevii :
magazine capacity 6 db 6 db 6 db 6 db
barrel length 1,5” 2,5” 3” 4”
caliber 9 mm 9 mm 9 mm 9 mm
full length 170 mm 180 mm 195 mm 216 mm
heights 98 mm 125 mm 125 mm 125 mm
width 34 mm 34 mm 34 mm 34 mm
E0: 18 Joule 20 Joule 30 Joule 44 Joule
V0: 245 m/s 260 m/s 320 m/s 385 m/s
material of the frame: alumínium zamak alumínium zamak

pai daca nu a reusit keserul sa strapunga tabla aia galvanizata de burlan ( 0,4 mm ) e stift; rg88, in schimb o face.

Salut ,ai incercat vreodata cite pagini dintr-o carte cu numere telefonice gaureste rg 88?Sint curios ,comparativ cu Defender.

Posted: **Tue Mar 18, 2008 9:10 pm**

gaureste aproximativ 300 pagini

Posted: **Wed Mar 19, 2008 6:20 pm**

DaBears wrote:gaureste aproximativ 300 pagini

Multumesc pentru raspuns,Defender gaureste aprox 380 -400 ,Revenge gaureste 450 dar este de 12 mm iar Keresztapa( nasul) care functioneaza cu bila de 18 mm trece printro care cu 500 de pagini.Fabrica recomanda incarcarea cu 2-3 bile ,cu una singura este prea puternic(ma refer la Keresztapa)Energia se calculeaza pe milimetru patrat,deci forta de strapungere este mai mica dar lovitura mai mare.